tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post7187777113060532522..comments2023-12-16T13:01:57.794-08:00Comments on shh, don't wake the DRUNKEN HOUSEWIFE: is it the Christians or is it "The Man Show" to blame?the Drunken Housewifehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14606104534453493304noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post-27316551755606110342010-05-04T08:32:08.698-07:002010-05-04T08:32:08.698-07:00Dear Sara,
of course "intelligent Christian...Dear Sara, <br /><br />of course "intelligent Christian" is not an oxymoron, not to any but the most bigoted. By many definitions of the word I am still a Christian myself: I believe in God & Jesus. Personally I have issues with (a) organized religion of all kindsand (b) certain aspects of the charismatic Christians. <br /><br />I hope my children don't become sexually active until they are old enough and mature enough to handle relationships, and I plan to provide them with all the knowledge I can. My problems with the conservative positions on sexuality in our society are in large part because pushing abstinence and shame and not teaching about birth control leads to shame, self-hatred, and unwanted pregnancies. There's the phenomenon I know all too well of the Christian girl who won't use birth control because that would mean she was intending to have sex. <br /><br />My husband has said that he wants our daughters to remain virgins until they marry, which I have scoffed at since abstinence is not a value he held himself. I hope to raise them with self-respect and street smarts, and I hope they get through with few traumas.the Drunken Housewifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14606104534453493304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post-74057649278647767512010-05-03T18:45:53.812-07:002010-05-03T18:45:53.812-07:00As an intelligent Christian (oxymoron or not) with...As an intelligent Christian (oxymoron or not) with a young daughter, I am hoping that she chooses to remain a virgin until marriage; but as someone who walked down the aisle eight months pregnant, I understand it may not happen. What I am teaching my daughter is that how she treats other people, treats herself, and follows what she believes in is what matters. Those things give her value, worth, and "power". For her to place her worth on her looks, or some system of beliefs that has been forced on her would surely lead to disappointment and heartache later in life. <br />Yes, I said forced on her. While I take my children to church and teach them my values, I also am fully aware that they may choose another way to live, and if that happens, I can only hope they aren't harming themselves or anyone else in the process (which I see in both extremes you have mentioned).Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11869331817579518456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post-32594645017569210962010-05-03T16:09:28.150-07:002010-05-03T16:09:28.150-07:00Haven't read Douglas, but Ariel Levy makes a s...Haven't read Douglas, but Ariel Levy makes a similar point (about feminism not being about the freedom to dress like a ho) and in "Female Chauvinist Pigs: Women And the Rise of Raunch Culture."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post-90127414412309562782010-05-03T07:02:23.946-07:002010-05-03T07:02:23.946-07:00The "I Gave Up Dating For Jesus" movemen...The "I Gave Up Dating For Jesus" movement covers boys as well as girls, and there is this infamous, creepy video of a young man's wedding kiss. It's creepy because his father spread it all over the internet saying how it glorifies God so much that his son saved his first kiss for his wedding (but the bride didn't, so the son goes into the wedding with the moral upper hand). Again it's all about the fathers, though... mothers are just left out of this entirely. There are no purity balls where a pubescent boy dances with his mother and pledges his troth, err, virginity, to her.the Drunken Housewifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14606104534453493304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post-90188203395521298252010-05-02T20:11:04.723-07:002010-05-02T20:11:04.723-07:00Also, the purity ball movement leaves me completel...Also, the purity ball movement leaves me completely cold--because there are no corresponding movements/balls for young men. Maybe there are, and I'm just uninformed, but there seems to be a singular lack of making boys pledge as well. I also find the whole dad-daughter and virginity thing creepy.Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00571974304103698871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post-22264132736787386642010-05-02T09:27:50.471-07:002010-05-02T09:27:50.471-07:00Of course then there is the appointment of Iran to...Of course then there is the appointment of Iran to the UN's woman commission on women's rights. Iran, who stones a woman if she does not dress modestly...Yvettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07588116948609094138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post-15314094744709229072010-05-01T23:16:56.040-07:002010-05-01T23:16:56.040-07:00And that's where American feminism has veered ...And that's where American feminism has veered from European feminism and where it has not served women like us so well, Missy. In Europe feminism was seen as being in large part about mothers' rights, and the feminists fought for long, paid maternity leaves and good, state-run childcare. Here the potent mix of capitalism with feminism has given us a kind of feminism which is all about women as workers, disregarding motherhood and its issues. <br /><br />I often think how much happier i would be personally living in Europe.the Drunken Housewifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14606104534453493304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324039.post-77569820309146720722010-05-01T19:29:37.461-07:002010-05-01T19:29:37.461-07:00One can but hope.
The thing that always hits har...One can but hope. <br /><br />The thing that always hits hard with me, as a conservative feminist, (if that can be said to exist) is that there seems to be a constant double standard for women to this day. For example, Sarah Palin (and I'm not a big SP fan, but objectively speaking, this was a big deal for me) was criticized on so many accounts not for her political beliefs, but for how how she could have a pregnant daughter, go to work with an infant, etc, etc. Joe Biden never had the same level of scrutiny, nor did Al Gore, regarding their parenting abilities. <br /><br />It seems to me that the feminist movement lost its momentum when it began disdaining women who chose to stay at home--in so doing, the movement lost the voice of those who would vehemently argue against the "We're powerful now and we can dress like hos." If we are to be women who endorse the freedom of choice and our own personal rights to achieve, we can do a damn sight better in accepting the choices of all women.Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00571974304103698871noreply@blogger.com